10
Questions…for Tayyeb Shabbir on the Global Impact of the Sub-prime
Credit Crisis
The old adage is that the U.S. economy sneezes and the rest of the
world catches a cold. Yet, as international economic crises expert
and Associate Professor of Finance Tayyeb Shabbir explains, that may
no longer be the case for every country around the globe. Recent
structural changes around the world may mean that in the 21st
century, the U.S. economy interacts with emerging economies in ways
that vary from the historical norms. Here, Shabbir, who co-edited
Recent Financial Crises: Analysis, Challenges and Implications in
2007, details why and how the U.S. economy’s downturn will impact
the rest of the world.
Did you foresee
the sub-prime credit crisis becoming such a big issue here in the U.S.?
I don’t
think anyone really did, certainly not its pervasiveness that is now
evident. When we first started seeing the effects, most people thought
we’d feel just a pinch. Even the Federal Reserve and top academic
economists didn’t foresee this becoming the huge issue that it is today.
It’s had a much larger impact because these sub-prime loans were bundled
into securities whose value couldn’t be readily accounted for. Starting
roughly with the summer of 2007, a cooling real estate market initiated
defaults of these “high loan to value” loans, which in turn soured the
demand for these “derivative” securities devaluing them essentially to
an uncertain degree. This created uncertainty as to the health of many
financial institutions holding these securities. Besides, reducing the
appetite for risk, this eventually triggered massive write-offs at
Citibank, UBS, and others that we’ve heard so much about.
Why has this crisis in the
U.S. affected the
rest of the world differently than in the past?
First
and foremost – though not exclusively – the rise of China and India as
emergent economic powers means they are less reliant on the U.S. economy
and so don’t feel the effects as much.
But isn’t China
sending us all of their exports? So aren’t they going to feel the impact
since we won’t be buying as many goods from them?
It will
slow down their exports, yes, but they’ve also developed strong domestic
demand for their products. They certainly have money in their own
pockets, enough so that they’ll keep their economies humming much more
than they would have if the U.S. faced such a downturn a decade ago.
What about credit around the world? Why won’t the rest of the world
feel the same credit crunch that we have here in the
U.S.?
In the
past, the U.S. and its banks were the financiers of the world, coming to
the rescue if there were ever any international economic crises like the
ones we saw in Asia in the late ’90s or Mexico in 1994. Today, though,
some of these other countries, awash in profits from rising oil
revenues, are bankers for the rest of the world. Money is certainly
flowing more freely, and these days a lot of that comes from sovereign
wealth funds.
What role do sovereign wealth funds play?
A sovereign wealth fund is owned by a government rather than a
private company or individuals. In 1970, the total amount of capital in
sovereign wealth funds was about $500 billion. Today, it’s $2 to $3
trillion – a four- to six-fold increase. The U.S. has sovereign wealth
funds. So does Russia, Norway, and many other European countries. But
everyone associates these funds with the Middle East, because 75 percent
of the funds are built on oil and gas revenues. These are largely held
by countries hugging the oil-rich Persian Gulf. The impact is that the
credit channels around the world are buffered because the world no
longer needs to rely on the U.S. for financing. These countries have
become the bankers for the rest of the world even siphoning capital into
some hard hit financial institutions in the U. S. such as Citigroup.
How might the
weaker U.S. dollar impact this crisis?
The lower dollar is going to actually help us, because it’s going to
increase our exports. It will help shore up the economy when we need it
most. But imports become more expensive with a weaker dollar so there is
some danger of “imported” inflation. So the Fed has to do a balancing
act to avoid “stagflation” – stagnation of the economy and inflation at
the same time. The irony of the benefits of increased exports from a
weaker dollar is that there’s a negative psychological effect brought on
by a weaker dollar.
What do you mean,
a “psychological effect” from a weaker dollar?
People
have this image that a strong currency always means a strong country.
It’s this somewhat unwarranted “macho” attachment. So when we have a
weaker dollar, it makes people feel vulnerable and thus reduces consumer
spending, which is two-thirds of GDP.
What about the
psychological impact of a U.S. downturn abroad? How does a lack of
confidence in the U.S. economy cross borders?
That’s
the one primary thing that stays the same. A lack of confidence in the
economy at home still creates a crisis of confidence in economies around
the world. That speaks to the fact that the U.S. is still a huge player
on the world stage, even if it is not as big as it was in the past.
Where do you think
this downturn will end?
The
last recession in the U.S. lasted eight months from peak to trough. It
was, however, somewhat shorter than the recessions we saw before World
War II when most recessions lasted 10 to 11 months. Of course, there was
the Great Depression, where recession lasted 43 months. The current
downturn is gearing up to be a relatively sharp one. 2008 certainly
looks like it will be a wash. However, early- to mid-2009 should see the
economy move to an upswing, in part, because the uncertainties of a
presidential election year will be behind us, and the current monetary
and fiscal stimulus will have fully made their impact known. But it’s
important to recognize that the way these things are evaluated is by
looking in the rearview mirror. It’s only when you’re coming out of a
recession or a downturn that you can look back and say, “Oh, we just
went through a recession.”
If we go into a recession, how do you think this will affect the rest
of the world?
Most likely, countries around the world will be bruised, but not
mortally wounded by the U.S. economy’s downturn. However, if we do go
into a deep recession, then you will see that buffer begin to break down
to a much greater degree and the U. S.’s “sneeze” may still induce a
world-wide cold.
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